@darrenverhage @kde you should try ! It is much better than" not windows", it is great and utterly customizable to your need and likings. I didn't use KDE for a long long time, because of QTs historical licensing problem: that was in the 90's, but I kept the habit of using Gnome for decades. And kde seemed too windoish. Then gnome became what it is, and I switched to KDE three years ago. And I love it 😍